Friday, February 8, 2013

Rumours of Daemons

So more rumours abound. If these are true, then the Daemon army book will get as many if not more options than the new chaos warrior book.


Lords

Great Unclean One
Ku'gath
Lord of Change
Kairos
Bloodthirster
Scarbrand
Keeper of Secrets
Named keeper of Secrets Character
Bel'akor or some other named daemon prince
Daemon prince similar to the WOC Daemon prince.

Heroes

Heralds of each god
Skulltaker
Blue Scribes
The Masque
Epidemius

Core


Furies (Monstrous Flying Infantry)
Bloodletters
Daemonettes
Plaguebearers
Horrors

Special

Screamers
Flamers

Flesh Hounds
Nurglings
Seekers
Seeker Chariot

Rare

Soulgrinder
Exalted Seeker Chariot
Hellflayer
Bloodcrushers
Beasts of Nurgle
Fiends of Slaanesh(plastic)

Special or Rare

Plaguebearers Riding Flies (Flying Monstrous Cavalry)
WarpStalkers (Monstrous Infantry with teleporting?)
Chariot of Khorne (Could have rules similar to Gore Chariot)
Cannon of Khorne (Ironblaster type thing pulled by a Jugger?)

Super duper Cannonade of Khorne (two Chariot kits pulled by 2 Juggers)
Flying Chariot of Tzeentch
Undivided Chaos beast/Daemon Engine
Large Flamer(dual kit with Tzeentch Chariot)?
Palanquin of Nurgle

I expect the Lores to be almost carbon copy of the chaos warriors lores with Tzeentch having that stupid warpflame rule.

Chaos is Fickle.

Thursday, February 7, 2013

OMG OMG OMG! WARZONE!


Oooh baby. Mutant Chronicles is back!

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Monster Mash

Wow. New chaos warrior army book. wow.

I rolled with a pure Nurgle army twice yesterday and boy it brought back memories of warhammer 15 years ago but not overly overpowered. It was a real Monster mash.

Daemon Princes are back and the new book is freakin' awesome.

I played one game with Nurgle Chaos Warriors Versus Daemons

Fully Kitted out Nurgle Daemon Prince
Festus
BSB on palanquin
2 units of 18-20 Halberd Chaos warriors of Nurgle
Chimera
2 Nurgle Spawn
Dragon ogre Shaggoth
1 unit of Marauder Horse

Then Versus new Slaaneshi Chaos warriros I went with
Fully Kitted out Nurgle Daemon Prince

BSB on palanquin
2 units of 18-20 Halberd Chaos warriors of Nurgle
2 units of 5 Poison hounds
1 unit of Marauder Horse
Nurgle Shrine
Nurgle Giant (Bruce)
2 Nurgle Spawn
Chimera

My Thoughts.
Dragon Ogre Shaggoth whilst being cheaper dies too easily. he needed to be tougher or have more armour. He's better than he was but not for competitive lists when you have better options in there.

Nurgle Giant(Bruce) is hard as tacks, T6 at 215 points, he is a must include.

Chimera really needs like 1 or 2  more wounds but the Threat generated by it was awesome.

Chaos Warriors of Nurgle are very hard to hit, they are very surviveable, except against a slaaneshi Damon Prince with 8 attacks from Cacaphonic Boosted. They are probably toughest in the game.

Daemon Familiar is a must have, extra spell and twice the chance to generate an extra die.

Scaled skin is great. Must have.

Palanquin is awesome, T5 BSB with, 4 wounds, 1+ armour, enchanted shield, chaos armour and -1 to hit.

Lore of Nurgle is lots of fun. At one point with Curse of leper I had a T8 spawn blocking a Slaaneshi damon prince. Plague wind is a great spell but Stream of Corruption is where it's at, I puked at least 6 times over 3 games. Plus my Daemon Prince got to T6 5W in the first turn. Even a Winged Daemon Prince with level 1 Signature and wings means he can do up to 6 Pukes a game.

Daemon prince with Scaled skin, Chaos armour, Charmed shield he gets 1+5+ with ignore first wound on a 2+. Cannon protection.

Shrine would have been good in the first turn when My Nurgle BSB rolled snake eyes's on Eotg and then 11 on leadership and got turned into a spawn, Yay! but Chaos is fickle.

Spawn are good fun, I think you'll see a boat load of Spawns of Tzeentch.

From Lore of Slaaneshi, Cacophonic Choir boosted is all kinds of awesome for slaaneshi spell. plus you get extra ws and attack on a roll of 6 for each wound caused. This can turn a Daemon prince into a Mincing machine.

Paid in Blood: Sam's NZ guide to getting good deals

I recently bought 2 sets of letter sprues and a maulerfiend sprue from Bitzbarn.

2 x Bloodletters $57NZD, 1 Maulerfiend $105NZD = $219NZD Retail from NZ GW, however I got them from Bitzbarn for $141 NZD post included charged to my Visa Debit. that's a 36% saving including postage. Now the bitz service is 20% all GW stuff and with exchange rates (GW still focused on 90's exchange rates for NZ and Australia).

Vagabond is good if you need them in the next day or so.
Now I haven't got an aunt in the US(but my wife does) however NZ Post's Youshop offers a USA mail address for honest resellers. I haven't tried it but it seems good to avoid illegal regional protectinoist practices some companies use.

There is great stuff on trademe and ebay. For overseas stuff you have to watch what they charge for international shipping. Apparently some of the stuff they get hookers to transport it some of the way. I managed to pick up all my old Tzeentch stuff from ebay and all 4 greater Daemons, 40 old pink and blue horrors, plus 7 old Lords of Change for under $200 NZD. You just have to be patient. Sometimes if you bid on whole lots like people having a clean out they will have some superb stuff. On one lot auction I managed to get for $80NZD approximately $1500NZD worth of Miniatures on one trademe bargain. You just have to keep your eyes peeled and examine each picture in the somewhat bad descriptions to know what you're looking for.

Theny there are alternate miniature manufacturers like Mantic and Avatars of War shipped from S2P. I use these because they have cheaper and sometimes better miniatures than GW. As a consumer of Minature Wargaming I have a choice.

I've saved money too lately.

Now from Bitzbarn I don't get the pretty boxes they come in, but who cares.

Tuesday, February 5, 2013

Tournament Musings, what I need to get done and MOAR Bloodletters!

NZ Team Tournament


Interesting army selection over at Fields of Blood for the upcoming tournament.

Almost half the field are comprised of Daemons, Ogres, Chaos Warriors ...and Dark Elves. Yes we have one of the Dark Elves in our team. Although 1 Skaven...yay!

My list is almost the same as Tom Dunn's except he's taking 2 Beasts of Nurgle instead of 2 units of Screamers and 3 units of Furies instead of 1 and no horror bunker. I find Furies to be very fragile and prefer Screamers as they can kill a lot of chaff and are infinately more surviveable than Furies. I only have 5 Chaff whereas Tom has 9 Chaff (Beasts of Nurgle are very tough Chaff/speed bumps, but still Chaff). My list for the tournament is as follows (with assembling and painting progress colours):


HEROES
1 Herald of Khorne, Firestorm Blade, Armour of Khorne(General) 140
1 Herald of Khorne, Firestorm Blade, Armour of Khorne 140
1 Herald of Khorne,  Armour of Khorne, Battle Standard Bearer 140
1 Herald of Tzeentch, Master of Sorcery (Light), Spellbreaker 165
CORE
29 Bloodletters, Musician, Standard Bearer, Champion 378
29 Bloodletters, Musician, Standard Bearer, Champion 378
29 Bloodletters, Musician, Standard Bearer, Champion 378
10 Pink Horrors, Musician 126
5 Chaos Furies 60
SPECIAL
3 Screamers 120
3 Screamers 120
RARE
1 Bloodcrusher 70
1 Bloodcrusher 70
1 Fiend of Slaanesh 55
1 Fiend of Slaanesh 55



TOTAL OVERALL POINTS 2395



Points %
Lords 0 0%
Heroes 585 24%
Core 1320 55%
Special 240 10%
Rare 250 10%

The Green are completedly finished, the orange I have to do a little bit of work. and the red I need to assemble and paint.  I figure about 3 days worth of work there, 1 to touch up all the orange, 1 to assemble BSB and 20 Bloodletters and 1 day to paint bloodletters and BSB. I'm gonna try post up more progress as I go.

NATCON


Since my wife is going to Natcon with me and running a Daemon list so I've needed to pick up another 40 Bloodletters. She's running a GUO with 2 'letter hordes, Shadow Mage in bunker and chaff. We may need moar BLOODLETTERS. I've almost finished painting another 20, so it'lls boost it up to like 70 and I'll have another 20+ done on the weekend in time for the tournament.

I've got a Maulerfiend coming to be my converted Khornate themed Soulgrinder so I proxied one on the weekend. It has a lot of utility and I may look at taking 2 in a list. Harvester cannon for grapeshot long range, balefire torrent for flamethrower and daemon bone Klaw for autohit instakill on giant things. 1 STR 10 attack with d6 wounds.

Papa Nurgle Mortal list (Chaos Warriors)


Plans for my Nurgle themed Chaos warrior army I've already started building. The Palanquin of Nurgle is a Monstrous Beast now so if something rides it like a herald of Nurgle for ht upcoming damon army book, it will have 4+ Regen, T5 and 4 wounds and better yet Epidemius might have T6 4W and be much better in a battle, I hope they fix his rules though. The CW lore of Nurgle is awesome, the CW lore of slaanesh is cool but the Tzeentch one is kind of sucky. Sure Gateway is still there but it doesn't totally nuke a unit if you roll high.  I might be looking at something like this;

1 Nurgle Daemon Prince (have 3 unassembled daemon princes -may need to convert one to Nurgle. or a few with EOTG table)
Throgg (need to buy)
Nurgle BSB on palanquin (proxy Epidemius)
Festus (painting him as we speak)
2 units of Nurgle Chaos warriors (have 20 Avatars of Wars ones)
6 Chaos knights of Nurgle (have 6- may need converting)
1 Horde of Nurgle marauders (have all the bits and have assembled a bunch already)
8 Nurgle Ogres (have 3 of these buy another box of bulls- or other ogres- and convert them)
6-8 Trolls (Chaos spawn + River troll conversions - or other trolls)
3 Dragon ogres (will buy new ones)
1 Chimera (already done)
1 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth (already done)
4 Spawn (already done)
2- 4 units of chaos hounds (direwolves most likely)
1 Warshrine (corpsecart?)

I have half that already. Add Tamurkhan (wishlisting for the missus's benefit) and I can do my ultimate Nurgle list with my nurgle Daemons.

Tamurkhan on toad Dragon (need to buy)

Great Unclean One
40 Plaguebearers
3 Pox riders
12 Nurgling bases
3 Beasts of Nurgle

Couple that with the new rumoured plaguebearers riding giant flies and you have a beautiful beautiful army.

Ideally would like to build a purish Khorne and Slaaneshi armies but that can wait. The other stuff I have is below;

Slaaneshi

1 Chaos Lord on Boobwyrm
30 Slaaneshi marauders

Khorne

2 Khorne Ogres

Tzeentch

Meh

Other Chaos Warrior stuff


I've read the rules for the book and as to the other stuff in the book; The Slaughterbrute's rules suck. Mutaltih Vortex beast is ok I guess. Forsaken are crap. Skullcrushers are still pretty brutal and still the best monstrous Cavalry. I wouldn't mind 3 or 4 for my Khorne list. Maybe some Chariots.

Friday, February 1, 2013

Kapiti Krushers with Swedish Comp

So ran our Swedish comp  of our armies for NZTC and got the following in descending (or ascending) order;

Nick "Fluffy Bunny" Jebson's Orcs and Gobbos
Dispel scroll -7
Orc Warbos -9
Savage Orc great Shamn -21
level 4 -8
night gobbo shaman -7
level 2 -3
Orc big boss -3
BSB -10
Savage orc Bigunz -47
Shrunken head -6
Goblins -4
Night Goblins -3
Night Goblins -3
6 fanatics, -2 -2 -3 -3 -5 -5
wolf riders -3 -3
Trolls -28
rock lobber -7 -7
doom diver -11 -11
18 Wmp -18

300-239 = 61/10 = 6.1 comp




Hamish "Brick in a Sock" Gordon and his Warriors of Chaos
Dispel Scroll -5
Infernal Puppet -35
Talisman of Preservation -4
Third Eye of Tzeenntch -7
Sorcerer Lord -20
level 4 -8
Marck of Tzeentch -6
Disc of Tzeetnch -4
Exalted hero -4
BSB -10
Chaos Steed -1
Chaos Warriors -21
Mark of Tzeentch with hand weapons and shields -2
marauder Horsemen -3 -3
Chaos Knights -28
Mark of TZeetch -3
SkullCrushers -21
Skullcrushers -26
3 after 6 Skullcrushers -30
each unit after 1st(more than 7) -10

300 -251 =49/10 = 4.9 comp




Samuel "But I really want a Greater Daemon" Campbell

Spell Destroyer -7
Herald of Korne -7, Battle standard bearer -10, armour of khorne -2
Herald of Korne -7, Fire Storm blade -3 , armour of khorne -2
Herald of Korne -7, Fire Storm blade -3 , armour of khorne -2
herald Of tzeentch -7 Master of sorcery (light) -18
29 Bloodletters -40
29 Bloodletters -40 -10
29 Bloodletters -40 -10
10 Pink Horrors -6
3 Screamers -3 -1
3 Screamers -3 -3
Bloodcrusher -3
Bloodcrusher -3
Fiend -6
Fiend -9
-252
300 -252 = 48/10 = 4.8 comp


Herman "The Sherman" Van Kradenburg

Dark elves
Repeater crossbows -8
Dispel scroll -7
Seal of Ghrond -7
tome of Furion -3
dread lord -10
black Dragon -20
Pendant -35
Sorceress -8
level 2 -2
Shadow -4
Level 1 -8
Death -2
Death hag -1
BSB -8
Rune of Khaine -1
Cauldron of Blood -20
Repeater Crossbowman -23
Corsairs -21
Sea serpent standard -3
Shades -4 -6
12 Shades -18
reaper Bolt Thrower -4 -6
War Hydra -40 -2

300 -271 = 29/10 = 2.9 comp

Herman you dirty dirty bastard, well according to Swedish Comp anyway.

Kapiti Krushers - NZ teams Tournament 2013

NZ Teams Tournament


So we're off to the team's tournament and have our lists submitted, Nick's taking his toys, lots of artilery, 6 fanatics and lots of chaff; Herman is taking 86 Crossbow shots; Hamish's running his last list with 9 Skull crushers and I'm taking 3 Hordes of Bloodletters.

Chaos Warriors



Chaos Warriors rumours look good, I'm building a nurgle army with them so am looking forward to that. I will be using at least 50% non GW, with Avatars of War Corruptors of Pestilence as Warriors of Chaos and Mantic Zombies as Marauders. I've got some mantic trolls fromt he kickstarter coming which look awesome.

I had a bit of a stocktake on my Chaos Warriors. I can do
7 Chaos Knights
5 Marauder horsemen
approximately 50 ol' school chaos warriors
20 Nurgle Chaos Warriors
30 Slaaneshi Marauders
80 Marauders (60 to be assembled)
6 Chaos Ogres
8 Spawn (I can finally use 2 of them as firewyrms again)
1 Dragon Ogre Shaggoth
1 Giant
1 Chimera (new addition to Chaos warriors-already had one for trasnformation and Storm Of magic)
1 Festus

It will look like to make my Nurgle Chaos Warriors I'll need 6 chaos trolls, 20+ Chaos Warriors of Nurgle. Chaos hounds (might use Direwolves), and for overall chaosy goodness wouldn't mind picking up Throgg, 3 Dragon Ogres, Valkia, Hellcanon, some Skullcrushers and Khornate stuff. I would like to do an army for each the chaos gods except Tzeentch.

Daemons


On other stuff apart from having ordered the Chaos warrior book, I've got 20 more Bloodletters and a Maulerfiend to be a Jugger-type Soulgrinder. It will need a bit of greenstuff and some spawn bitz to mage it more organic or just similar to the Juggernauts.If my wife plays daemons as well I might need a hell of a lot more of Bloodletters for NATCON.

Konflict '47 - 15mm Alternate History


Some other stuff I've been looking at is the Clockwork Miniatures  (Dust tactics for 15mm anyone). I love mechs and alternate history. Now, they only have Germans and Americans, but can't wait to see some russian stuff and mix in my Battlefront and Plastic Soldier Company miniatures.

http://www.clockworkgoblinminis.co.uk/